32 Comments on Francis Chan Warns Those Who Criticize Christian Leaders: “God Will Destroy You”

admin said : administrator 3 weeks ago

Dear MR: The link goes to the entire video, easy for anyone to watch the entire thing. If anyone is not showing love and is being unduly judgmental, it is Francis Chan who is suggesting that God will kill anyone who challenges Christian leaders. This is very wrong.

Mr said : Guest 3 weeks ago

Why is your link starting at 2.10 minutes in and not giving a context to what he was saying? How is your post about love? Love is the filter that should guide all of your posts as it’s the primary core of what Jesus was about. I see no love here, just judgement and by that link being 2.10 minutes into the video it gives a false representation of what he’s actually concerned about.

Scott said : Guest 4 months ago

Are these not the days predicted of apostasy? This man seemed to 'get it's. He seemed to see the things the virgin bride now sees. The victim with oil in her lamp. Now? He seems ten times a sin of hell. How now will be fine life? I know this; I sure have been led down some stupidities and attitudes that were way off. Always the Lord brings me back- To Himself. This is way beyond this. Pray for this man to turn. It will not be his predictions that materialize. Make no mistake- This guy will be a leader alright. He will be the one hunting all the born again ones who will not join his club.

Elizabeth Bennett said : Guest 5 months ago

Emergents preach that those who disagree with them should leave their church or die. Where is their love? How can Chan say that God will destroy us? Is Chan God?

CW said : Guest 9 months ago

The article says: "Chan took it a step further and described incidents in the Bible where God took people’s lives as in the case of Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 5:10) to predict that God will take the lives of those who have negative things to say about the teachings of today’s spiritual leaders." -- What??? This is really scary. I wish I could ask him why he took that scripture passage out of context. God judged Ananias and Sapphira because they lied to Him about what they did with the price of land they sold! Shaking my head here in deep sadness and great concern for the Body of Christ if they're believing this nonsense (and I'm sure that MANY of them are, especially those at Bethel who are already accustomed to receiving unbiblical beliefs).

Lyra said : Guest 9 months ago

"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and shall bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not" (2 Peter 2:1-3 KJV). "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them" (Ephesians 5:11 KJV). God Bless Lighthouse Trails Research!

Daniel said : Guest 9 months ago

I pick up on this: "Oftentimes, this cultish mentality is compounded by the idea that the members of the church should trust the pastor’s discernment more than their own because the pastor is more mature and in tune with the things of God." It is in reality the syndrome that the Catholic and Vatican Church has imposed on people for centuries. The sad thing is that these that some would continue to call Protestant Churches leaders, are now perhaps in a more palatable manner, returning to the vomit that bereft a complete population of Christ, using a deceiving shadow of protection under His Name. Unfortunately Francis Chan has added to this down spiral trajectory. He may be using the judgment in a reverse psychology upon himself in suggesting the destruction of some by God. By the words he is saying he may sadly be pronouncing judgment upon himself. Jesus has said: Mat 7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Mat 7:22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Mat 7:23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work

Vic said : Guest 9 months ago

Looks like Mr. Chan made perfection attainment in his eyes. (Mat 5:48)  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Miriam Donnell said : Guest 9 months ago

It is uplifting LT is a huge voice against these actions of false teachers that so many people are blindly following. It is shocking the deceit that these "church leaders" are teaching- they should know the truth- so you have to ask- are they themselves deceived?- or are they deceiving people on purpose?- are they actually jesuits infiltrating these building claiming to be raised in the name of gathering christians?- or is it a massive effort to bring about the new new false world religion? They get all the radio stations, the tv stations- they are the riches, funnest, most popular feel good messages out there- but they do not have the KJV Bible nor even know the word of God to teach or be convicted of. How can a real Christian leader go against the word of God in such a twisted way and also claim to know God? It is clearly unscriptural just based on Acts 17:11 alone- let alone the rest of our character to be Godly sand stand for truth- being salt and light in the world- 11 reads-These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Today's church "buildings" are full of people & leaders who do not read the KJV Bible nor even know the reasons why they should.

John DeWitt said : Guest 9 months ago

Christ about the humility like a child and humility creates in us a teachable heart that makes us pliable to the instruction of the word unto righteousness. This includes agreeing with the word when it states the inspired Word of God is profitable for reproof and correction. When reproof and correction start being labeled criticism, it shows a biblical spiritual elitism by a self appointed class of celebrity Christians. At some point a celebrity ministry becomes to big to fail, so to speak, that hiding doctrinal error is more important than humility.

MB said : Guest 9 months ago

Scott, having written: "And I am totally appalled at lighthousetrailresearch. You are nothing but the accuser of the brotheran.. Its a miracle that Christians would want to follow any man of God with people like you in this world. There are no Bible verses for your cowardly slandering the backside of your brothers." Are you not guilty of the very thing you and Chan condemn? See, that is (just part of) the folly and egregious error of this. So, according to Chan (and yourself), you are in danger of being "destroyed" by God.

MB said : Guest 9 months ago

Which godly leader in Scripture warned others (or even subtly threatened them) to never criticize leaders? How many cult leaders/followers (or plain ol' false teachers) warned others to not criticize their leaders? How many Scriptures are there that exhort us to warn others of error, false teachings, and false teachers (e.g. wolves)? Who, exactly, would not want us to warn of wolves, false teachings, etc?

Jo said : Guest 9 months ago

I just Truly thank God for Lighthouse Trails!!!!!!!

Chas said : Guest 9 months ago

It is ironic that Chan (and others) would use 1st Cor. 3:17 to support of the "touch not God's anointed" ruse. If one reads the verse closely, it is the Church that is God's anointed, not the leader being questioned. Chan has failed to see--or is deliberately trying to hide the fact--that Paul's warning is directed at him--Chan--not to the believer asking the questions. But Chan's "don't touch God's anointed" tactic is nothing new. The "anointed" heretics who appear on TBN from as far back as the '70s helped make it popular among WF Movement "teachers". Kenneth Hagin was one of the first I heard use it, and Ken Copeland was right behind him. Benny Hinn (he of the "Holy Ghost machine gun" approach) was quick to pick up the tactic, along with Dwight Thompson, Paul Crouch, John Avanzini and a host of other WF culprits. The frequency of the tactic's deployment seemed to be proportional to the amount of exposure-as false-teacher the particular "anointed" was experiencing at the time. Chan must be feeling the heat.

Anna Rosa said : Guest 9 months ago

In response to the comment Scott Trester left: I totally agree with LT here and disagree with Francis and Scott. You are the ones in great error. Please repent. And this is how satan twists Scripture to silence the truth; by pointing to David and Saul and 'touching the Lord's anointed'. Learn how to interpret Scripture. It was not about public refutation but killing Saul. And WE are the Lord's anointed, not the wolves. And, in that story, David is a type of Jesus and Saul of the antichrist and devil. The devil was the 'anointed cherub,' who still is 'the god of this world' until the return of Christ, David's wait period is symbolic of the time until Jesus reigns. Jesus could have destroyed him but this will happen later. Also, it says that the Lord left Saul several times. Saul goes after David to destroy him but David prevails. The apostate camp aligns themselves with Saul & antichrist, of course!

Sola Scriptura said : Guest 9 months ago

** I meant to say that Saul was hand chosen by “God,” and the references for the “touch not God’s anointed” are 1 Samuel 24:9-19 and 1 Samuel 26:7-14. Interestingly, Saul humbled himself and repented both times David called him out publicly for pursuing and trying to kill him, David, a righteous man. So Saul did what most leaders won’t even consider today. He listened to a sound, godly rebuke, and for a time, turned to truth. Remember: “But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.” ‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Sola Scriptura said : Guest 9 months ago

Pointing to David is a false analogy. First of all, David was actually criticizing Saul publicly but wouldn’t let his men KILL him. Secondly, Saul was actually anointed by a prophet hand chosen by men, vs. these self appointed liars. As for criticizing leaders, check Galatians 2 where Paul challenges Peter PUBLICLY when he was harming the gospel by becoming a hypocrite. A few others for you: “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭16:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;” ‭‭Titus‬ ‭1:13‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject;” ‭‭Titus‬ ‭3:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭15:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬ I could go on and on. In Acts 20, Paul warns the brethren with tears that wolves would arise from within the church. Only the truth of the gospel matters, not the reputation of men.

admin said : administrator 9 months ago

Mike, Among other things, he specifically mentioned three men who should not be criticized but who do teach false doctrine: Rick Warren, Mark Driscoll, and John Piper. All three of those men are major proponents of the highly dangerous and unbiblical contemplative prayer movement, for example.

Scott Trester said : Guest 9 months ago

I totally agree with Francis here. And I am totally appalled at lighthousetrailresearch. You are nothing but the accuser of the brotheran.. Its a miracle that Christians would want to follow any man of God with people like you in this world. There are no Bible verses for your cowardly slandering the backside of your brothers. You are the one in great error. Please repent. Learn how afraid David was to slander the Lords Anointed.. Speaking of King Saul. Awesome Video

Mike A said : Guest 10 months ago

Soooo.....I read your write-up and listened to the speech, did we watch the same thing? I think you very much missed the point of his message that was clearly demonstrated by many examples, especially at the beginning. The point was, those who speak "flippantly" or in "divisive" ways (which have the connotation of not in accordance with truth). I don't see anywhere in his talk where he condemns calling out false doctrine.

T. I. Miller said : Guest 10 months ago

Jesus, the way the truth and the light, was attacked religious leaders. If they had known the Father they would have received Him instead. Jesus publicly exposed them as hypocrites and as false teachers. Jesus overturned the tables in the Temple and denounced the spiritual leaders. Paul publicly confronted the Apostle Peter for hypocrisy. Obedience to those in authority does not imply blind obedience. Even pastors whose doctrine is sound can be filled with pride. They can begin to think more highly of themselves than they ought. They can stop being shepherds and become authoritarian bullies. It is wrong to say I follow Paul or I follow Apollos or I follow my pastor or any other, so called, spiritual leader.

Julie Hamilton said : Guest 10 months ago

It seems that some of these teachers want us to leave our brains at the door.

CW said : Guest 10 months ago

RE: “If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are” (1 Corinthians 3:17). This does NOT pertain to simple disagreement with a leader. I've read and enjoyed two of Chan's books in the past, and I am frankly shocked that he would say such a thing. This is frightening to me, for his sake. It reminds me of the similar misuse of the scripture which says "Touch not God's anointed". Oh my, that was used to pronounce certain destruction on MANY people back in the day, and AFAIK they're still alive. And really, what was Chan doing at Bethel in the first place? IMHO, he should know better.

Marie Kelly said : Guest 10 months ago

So is this an example of Calvinism mixed with Chrismatics? Pretty scary!

Ken said : Guest 10 months ago

Don't forget that Francis Chan took an agnostic view of Hell being eternal, conscious, torment, in his book, "Erasing Hell." In 7/5/2011, "Christianity Today," he said that "good Godly men took the annihilation view." Chan seems to operate on his feelings rather than scripture.

Anna Rosa said : Guest 10 months ago

And, it's the wolves whom God destroys in the end, not the saints.

Anna Rosa said : Guest 10 months ago

Wow! 1. Yes, we are supposed to fight heresy, false teaching, apostasy, and sin in the church; the Bible tells us to! One commentator left more than enough bible verses for that. 2. The leaders he mentioned are some of the biggest wolves of the apostasy hall of fame and should be exposed for their heresy! 3. Just like the Bible says, we will be persecuted and much of it comes from within the false church. As it says in Matt. 24; brother will betray brother, and this one: "They will put you out of the synagogues. In fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God. They will do these things because they have not known the Father or Me." John 16; 2-3 4. WE are the temple and the shepherds and sheep dogs protecting the sheep from the wolves like Francis Chan and those he endorses!

MB said : Guest 10 months ago

So, if any of us challenge Chan here (or on anything else) are we "being divisive" and in danger of God destroying us? If so, then we cannot even challenge him on his teaching that we cannot challenge him. Hmmmmmm Apart from that being anti-Scriptural and illogical, it is also an eerily similar tactic of deadly cults ... when they threaten "Touch not the Lord's annointed!" Yet should I now feel in danger of being destroyed by God for exposing this? There is another common tactic here of false teachers: they are the ones who are, biblically speaking, guilty of causing division (e.g. Rom 16:17-18) yet they often FALSELY accuse people (those who expose their error/wrongdoing) of being divisive and causing trouble ["And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel?" (1 Kgs 18:17) (see also 1 Kgs 22:12ff)] Furthermore, and in further irony, Chan refers repeatedly to Titus 3:10 about division, yet the word used is "hairetikos" (heretick) which is defined as: schismatic, factious, a follower of a false doctrine. So, again, it is the teacher of false doctrine that divides and destroys us, NOT the person who exposes false teaching, and, again, false teachers often blame the "exposer" for the division caused by the false teacher!

John said : Guest 10 months ago

Chan has served as a public relations vehicle for the International House of Prayer, "lefitimizing" IHOP by speaking at Onething, the annual IHOP extravaganza.

Tony said : Guest 10 months ago

The great irony is IHOP leader Mike Bickell lays hands on Chan...speaking of destroying God's temple!

Roy Schlamp said : Guest 10 months ago

Titus 3:10-11 K.J.V. A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself. NRSV: have nothing more to do with is perverted and sinful… NIV: Warn a anyone who causes divisions, since you know that such a person divisive person once and then warn him a second time…. NASB: Reject a factious man … NKJV: Reject a ASV: A divisive man … factious man after a first and second admonition refuse… NWT: A man that pr omotes a sect reject him... AMP:... a man who is factious... Here we have the word ‘heretic’ (one who teaches heresy) replaced by words that in no way render the same meaning. Jesus Christ walked this earth as a factious and a divisive person! Should He be warned and rejected? Is He perverted and sinful? He came preaching the truth and it brought much division; and rose up a faction within the religious community. The true Gospel is quite divisive and factious. Should we stop preaching the truth so we do not cause a division between those who will not receive the truth and those who will? No, but we should reject a person who is a her etic! (if he rejects two admonitions.)

Karen L. said : Guest 10 months ago

If those people that followed Jim Jones, David Koresh, Heaven's Gate, and others, questioned their teachings and had discernment, they would all be alive today. Questioning "leaders" in churches or the books they write, is being discerning. God does not want anyone to blindly follow any man. Most people like Chan that get that angry, are usually concerned that they will be questioned next. He needs to understand that he words are watched for his own good, he must be above reproach. We discern and question for the love of God's people, do they not do the same. I believe that in these last days many teachers like Chan, are ready to embrace all religions, "for the sake of love". I heard one 'leader' say.."I wish I had a holy spirit machine gun to shoot all the heresy hunters." That terrified me for that person. We can't be bullied into false scriptural submission. We fight for God's truth...we can do less.

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