22 Comments on Long-Time BSF Leader Steps Down As BSF Heads Deeper Into Emergent Waters

Kat said : Guest 4 weeks ago

I am truly distressed about this. Came back this year in CA, after a three-year hiatus, have since moved to WA state and just discovered yesterday from a new friend at my new church this website and the 'words' that pinpoint my 'can't put my finger on my 'uncomfortable'' with BSF. Will research more...

Rina Boffa said : Guest 4 weeks ago

I used to go to BSF and found I could not speak against peoples false religions and Catholicism, if people think it was biblical being in BSF, they have been deceived. James Montgomery Boice wrote the Romans study who was a Calvinist; that should be enough to stay away from BSF; if you do the research, Miss Johnson who started the study, in her own words, said it was an Ecumenical Gathering, that in itself is a huge problem. They are marching you down to Rome, with all their Contemplative prayers. The gospel is once saved always saved, eternal security is the gospel, now thats good news. There are Pentecostals and Lutherans and Presbytns that all go there who think you can lose your salvation and Presbyns who say if you sin, big sins then you were never a Christian to begin with. They do not teach you to be discerning, its all about bottoms on seats. I feel very grieved about BSF and would not recommend it to people.

Morrigan said : Guest a month ago

I recently stepped out of leadership. It felt like BSF's goal is to keep itself alive and pushes leaders to use their relationship with their group members as leverage to keep them coming back. It felt really disenguine. The focus of the organization is entirely self-preservation which is so...corporate. I also was sacrificing my own personal relationships and friendships and time at church to meet the demands of leadership on top of my full-time job. It was also a red flag to me when I was told if I felt like quitting, not to talk to my husband and family, only the teaching leader, so I could be "talked out" of leadership. Leadership is heavily laden with guilt. I won't go back.

Melva said : Guest 2 months ago

I am so grateful to the BSF leader who wrote the letter. Thank you for your courage to speak out. I currently am in BSF. I, too, have noticed the big changes in the format, especially in our groups where there is now less emphasis on actually discussing scriptures and more on relating our experiences. But I did not, yet, discern the shift to Dominion theology. However, after reading this letter by the former BSF leader exposing the subtle shifting away from Jesus Christ, I am making the decision to leave this "new and improved" BSF.

Lynn said : Guest 3 months ago

Today (9/13/18) I attended my first BSF class after a gap of 8-10 years. Having attended for 11 years in the 90’s-early 2000’s, I was excited to be getting back into a structured Bible study. I’d heard there were “exciting” changes, but what I noticed was distressing, not exciting. In the lecture I noticed an emphasis on knowing the “heart of God”, which didn’t seem problematic at first. Then the discussion time was totally different from the previously organized discussions I knew from the past. I asked the discussion leader if this was going to be the new format and she said sometimes it would be like this and sometimes would be different. Afterwards, I reached out to 2 BSF-ers I knew “back when” but after waiting several hours for their reply, I just decided to search online. I was glad to find your website, but sad to find my fears were confirmed. Things had changed, and not for the better. In life, change in inevitable. Some changes are good, some bad, some neutral. The info provided on your website has assured me that I was right to be concerned about the changes in BSF. Thank you for the factual information you’ve published.

Sharon said : Guest 3 months ago

I have been with BSF for two years and they are totally Biblical, not legalistic. Wow this is really a judgmental attitude and I have been a Christian for a long long time. Hate when so called Christians feel they need to judge and call it being discerning. So sad. I know that you will not agree, but that is okay too. Praying for softer hearts where God is definitely working in BSF.

admin said : administrator 4 months ago

Carol if you get a chance to read the article we posted today by the woman who came out of Calvinism, she discusses her time in BSF and what she discovered about the organization's leadership.

Carol Ackerman said : Guest 4 months ago

Last year a friend of mine invited me to attend BSF, however, it bothered me that the meetings were being held in a large local church who does not have a good reputation for sound doctrine so I declined. I was invited again this year to attend when your article came up on my facebook newsfeed about BSF leaders plunging into the "Emergent Waters". I forwarded this article to the friend who had been invited me to attend BSF again this year. She read your article but became furious with me for sending it to her. Accused your ministry of being unbiblical for making public and exposing the errors of BSF and accused me of being judgemental and unbiblical for posting your article on my facebook page. This friend of mine does not attend church anywhere because of unsound doctrine in most all the churches in the area we live so I thought she would appreciate and want to know about BSF. However, I was very much mistaken and had to endure her rantings about how discernment ministries such as yours destroy the good reputation of ministries like BSF. Her words and thoughts not mine. I am grateful for the work you do at Lighthouse and will continue to post your articles on my facebook. As for my friend, I can no longer continue having much fellowship with her because of this.

Eliza said : Guest 4 months ago

I attended BSF in the 80's & had a problem w/ them allowing false teaching from attenders w/out correcting them. That in itself disqualified them from being true to the gospel. Additionally their magisterial approach to teaching the word of a woman as if it were the Word of God was at the heart of their demise. I'm glad I didn't continue w/ this heretical group.

jill Widdowson said : Guest 4 months ago

I attended BSF in Australia for 5 years in the 80's and have always been so grateful for the privilege of sound biblical teaching, and during which time, the Lord gave me a love for His Word, which grows more and more the older I get. How deeply saddened I am therefore, to learn of the deception that has entered this once biblically sound ministry. I guess I should not be surprised given the days in which we are living, the Lord Jesus is returning soon, and the signs of His coming are increasing day by day. maranatha, come Lord Jesus.

Heidi Lavoie said : Guest 4 months ago

Dr. Kevin Mannoia's church planting system (Century 21 Church Planting), is nothing less than the strategy of the Antichrist to "transform" Bible based Christian churches into apostate churches void of the true gospel message, churches that have been adapted to please the tastes of the worldly in order to draw them in. My experience that evening at the Conference was so upsetting that it was the last time I attended that church. We are witnessing the fulfillment of 2Thess. 2:3

Heidi Lavoie said : Guest 4 months ago

This is a continuation of my information submitted about the new age terminology used at a C&MA District Conference I attended in 2003. The analogy used by the speaker of a "river" is constantly used in the Charismatic movement. And I believe the use of the term "community" is derived from Buddhist philosophy. The New Age Movement is an eclectic, occult-based, evolution promoting, man-centered, self deifying, pervasive world view that seeks through transformation of individuals to bring about a transformation of society in order to achieve the ultimate goal of a new world order of complete global harmony … globalism is founded upon planetary consciousness, which is a world view that emphasizes loyalty to the community of humanity rather than local loyalties to nation, tribe or other social groupings.

Heidi Lavoie said : Guest 4 months ago

I agree with the comments regarding the new age/new spirituality's frequent referencing of the word "community". I came across the use of what I term "new age lingo" at my Christian and Missionary Alliance church here in the small town in South Western Ontario where I live, back in the year 2003. when I attended the District Conference. Here are some examples of terms used profusely by the speaker, Dr. Kevin Mannoia (previous President of the NAE): "Kingdom connectedness", "apostolic movement", "community", Kingdom culture", "transforming environment", "the river", "think collectively that we are a river" (new age term is "collective consciousiness"), "nature of the Kingdom as community", "great Kingdom community" "Kingdom is like a river", "we are like that river of God". Other terms used: "Kingdom flow", "be the people of God in community", "wherever you go life thrives in your collective units (communities)","differentiated identities", "cluster power", "fruit of transformed communities", "You are a community, a Kingdom people collectively". This presentation was a stunning example of how the new age/new spirituality has entered the church. The speaker went on to crack jokes about whether one could worship God while smoking marijuana.

Val Lee said : Guest 4 months ago

Regarding BSF, I chose not to attend when I learned you cannot expose the lies of false religions, such as idolatrous Catholicism, Mormonism, etc. The entire Bible boldly exposes false beliefs including idol worship. These guidelines have been penned in stone for countless years representing compromise to please all ears and for number-sake. Christians are to come out and be separate from all those of false faiths, not sitting next to them in the name of ecumenicalism.

Steven said : Guest 4 months ago

Excellent I have been wary of this group for a long time. All false teachers and phony ministries have one thing in common-they get into grandma’s house by speaking much if not all truth, then once inside, ravish the household and destroy it. Amazing how few professing Christians understand this dynamic

Susan McClure said : Guest 4 months ago

Excellent article. I am distressed by the use of the word "community" used frequently by my church's leadership. While they still preach truth, I suspect the Emergent church influences are creeping in.

T. I. Miller said : Guest 4 months ago

Thanks to LHT diligence I was made aware of their drift from the gospel according to scripture. I was personally bothered by an adult Sunday school teacher who was also very dedicated to BSF. He was proud that no matter how diverse how apostate their theological backgrounds were, the BSF lessons offended no one. The biblical gospel is a stumbling block and an offense to the lost. That is not something to boast about. This call to "community" is far more menacing than what meets the eye. Looking at the big picture it is the road to a global theological community. This totally apostate religious global community will embrace even false religions. It is also more than likely being set up to be duped by the FALSE christ the anti-christ who will promise world "community" peace, harmony and social justice for all. The Church is Christ body. The NT never refers to it as a community. For that matter it never refers to it as family. It is unique. It is set apart. It is one of a kind. Sports teams and co-workers can claim they are family. Only the church can unashamedly claim the title, the body of our Lord and Savior Jesus. Neither Jesus nor the Apostles ever marketed the gospel. Something the seeker friendly, ( we are family ), advocates should think about.

Jeffry said : Guest 4 months ago

When I was young we use to go to "Home Days". To gather together to have fun. Most cities had tents from churches in the area. Giving away Texts from the Bible. Today cities call it "Community Days". Many cities have banned the churches from having a tent. Our country is headed for Socialism? Marxism? Communism? All 3 mean the same thing. Totalitarianism. Pray for our country.

Roberra Harper said : Guest 4 months ago

The Philadelphia Class started in my home 30 years ago. We had 1 year of prayer and had 70 women to be able to start the class. 5 years ago BFS told us they were closing our class because we were rude to out 35 year old leader who could not explain about Jesus returning in the rapture. One of our leaders in her 60s said "we are not leaving this room until everyone understands about the rapture. She explained it in detail with scripture. The next week tge leaders from headquarters cand and closed our class because we were rude. We have continued this last 5 years with a great teaching leader and more than 70 women registered and still going strong. I am the Director of the childrens program and we are now Joy Of Living. We have not missed a week and we teach tge truth from God's true word the Bible! God provides!

Glenn said : Guest 4 months ago

The term "community" shows up a lot in the contemplative/emerging church writing. Peter Drucker was a communitarian (different than being a communist but no more scriptural) and through Bob Buford's Leadership Network influenced a who's who of these leaders. Also, Rod Dreher (author of the Benedict Option) has been heavily influenced by Alasdair MacIntyre another communitarian. This philosophy heavily emphasizes "community" but not scripture. This teaching does not come from the Holy Spirit. Come soon Lord Jesus!

Anna Rosa said : Guest 4 months ago

Instead of saving the people on the Titannic with the Gospel, they are trying to save the Titannic!

Ronda said : Guest 4 months ago

I study with BSF, i found them to be contradicting. From study to study. Teaching Calvin doc. That would be that faith was a gift from God if God doesn't give you this gift you can not believe. I question the faith gift, when it comes to falling away, only those given this gift. Could fall away. That would mean God took Bach his gift back from His elected one

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