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  1. DW

    Please make it very clear that Youth With A Mission (YWAM) was helping to head up The Send. In fact, YWAMers went to Lou Engle and together they formed the idea for The Send. As a very recent former YWAM staff who was naive to all things NAR and contemplative, I am now horrified to see this and thank God for giving us the discernment to leave. But, we NEED to warn our young people about YWAM. They are heavily involved in Lou Engle, Benny Hinn, IHOP, etc. They are teaching contemplative prayer and corporate imagery prayer. Not every base is, but you cannot be sure which do because they have destructuralized their organization..which means there is little to no accountability of each separate base. The problem starts at the top. Andy Byrd, one of the main collaborators for The Send, is part of the leadership for the YWAM University of the Nations and YWAM Kona base. He has spoken at Bethel School of Supernatural Ministries : the Summit (Feb) and Bethel Church. Steve Cochran endorses Eugene Peterson, Selah, contemplative practices, syncretism and more. And that is just couple. YWAM is no longer a place to encourage our young people to get involved with. I would beg Lighthouse trails to research YWAM…thousands of people a year are being taught through YWAM..and thousands of young people will be deceived ..as they already have through The Send and the collaborators that YWAM chose to use.

  2. Kathy

    Well, just a month or so ago I warned my elder at the A/G church we started attending that Chan is running with the NAR pack in The Send after they gave everyone a youtube link to hear Chan speak on evangelism. He said he’d check on it, yet just last week I was informed the youth Sunday school class is starting Chan doctrine videos! They started them ahead of telling me so. So I was forced to yank my teenager away from his new friends in that class! Division starting again! Sword has fallen in my house while standing for truth! Why can’t we all just study the Word at church, worship, and fellowship together? Did I mention I ran out of a NAR church the week after the Azusa Now Conference after seeing Lou Engle kiss the priest’s feet? We are not repeating NAR life!! People don’t want to hear it. Yes, birds of a feather flock together!

  3. Elizabeth Bennett

    Before any revival starts there has to be a repentance. John the Baptist preached a gospel of repentance to prepare the Jewish people to believe in their Messiah Jesus Christ. During the Tribulation there will be a huge revival brought about by the preaching of the 144,000 Jewish evangelists and the two witnesses in Jerusalem. But sadly, even during the horrors of the Tribulation there will be many who refuse to repent and believe in Jesus.

  4. T. I. Miller

    Doug, it is important to define terminology concerning the hypostatical union. Jesus was fully God and fully and fully God. He emptied himself taking on the form of a servant. Jesus said that He only said what the Father told Him to say. That He only did what the Father told Him to do. He said no one but the Father knows of the day or the hour.
    In the story of the prince and the pauper the prince lived like he was not a prince. The prince set aside his authority. This is all that is meant by Jesus setting aside His divine authority. It does not mean that while incarnate that He stopped being God. This truth magnifies the humility of Jesus. Of His own free will He refrained from using His divinity to make life easier. He is the ultimate role model for walking in complete submission.
    Truth is truth irrespective of who speaks it. Anyone who quotes John 3:16, for example, is speaking truth.

  5. T. I. Miller

    Church leaders have gone astray from the beginning. They face the same fame temptations that the Pharisees faced. They are given the seat of honor, a special title and respectful greetings. More fame can easily go to anyone’s head. Increasing the flock and the income with books and media can feed their egos. Money remains the root of all kinds of evil, even a pastors salary. King Solomon’s fame swelled his ego not his humility. Pastors can begin to believe their own press too. Fame like any addiction leads to needing ever increasing doses.
    Pastor is a gift not a church office. Eph. 4:11 lists four spiritual gifts apostle, prophet, evangelist and shepherd/teacher. The apostle Paul was never an elder nor was a pastor. 1 Cor. 14-39 gives the biblical model for how co-equal elders are to conduct the church service collectively. Verse 40 gives them as a group to see that all is done in decency and order. During the church service the one speaking could be test by and or replaced other elders. The church service was not passive for the flock it was participatory. Each was to bring a Psalm or a praise. There is no place for a Hollywood concert production so called worship service found in scripture. This model is designed to keep egos in check. This model keeps shepherds from drawing people after themselves. God did not ordain the local church to become an employment franchise for seminary graduates. Nor a launch pad for promotions to ever bigger platforms.

  6. Doug

    All’s one has to do is to open their Bible and read the New Testament through once to see that what happens at Bethel is asinine and demonic. I used to listen to some of Chan’s sermons after I was saved and was blessed back then … I simply can’t believe he would let himself even be associated with a heretic like Bill Johnson (who teaches that Jesus set aside his divinity to model what someone fully being led by the Spirit can do). Listen to Lindsay Davis’ testimony of getting kicked out of Bethel’s version of Hogwarts because God graciously opened her eyes to the truth. Jesus Culture is just the gateway drug into Bethel … draw em in with the music and then give them the kool-aid!

    • CW

      Doug, do you have a link to Lindsay Davis’ testimony? I’d love to see that. I agree with you that at one time Francis Chan was a good teacher. I read his books (three) and found them to be solid Biblically; I was blessed by them. It is shocking to see what/whom he is embracing today.

      I pray in the mighty Name of Jesus the Lord that he will see the error of his way and repent with godly sorrow which leads to repentance not to be repented of.

  7. Nancy

    You just have to shake your head at the excuses those who are compromising make. It takes one step, and then another in the wrong direction to change the course of a persons spiritual walk. It would appear that too many popular teachers have rejected what scripture says about false teachers. It’s better to stand alone firm in the truth of God’s word, than join the crowd in false unity and error.

  8. Cheryl Fisher

    CH and I have been warning people for years about a coming false and deceptive “Revival” . Most have ignored it , refused to accept even the possibility of such an occurrence, and have called us false prophets/teachers and rejected us along with others who have spoken likewise.
    The professing church sleeps not even aware that deception is rocking the cradle they sleep in.

  9. Ann

    I raised my 5 children(in their late 40’s and 30’s) to know about the “Hidden dangers of the rainbow ” . The teachings of , ” How shall we then live ” , but above all was the King James bible ! My oldest son is a lover of self but says he loves God, , my second son is agnostic, and a lover of self, my oldest daughter has many issues , but she does love the Lord . My second daughter follows Hillsong , my youngest son gets what is happening in the world and lives for God .we went to church 3 times a week and the younger 3 went to Christian school . My husband and I taught Sunday school and we were in bus ministry ! What did we do wrong ! Or does the world have such a pull that pastors and even church kids ,raised in a good home run after it ?

    • Sina

      You didn’t necessarily do anything wrong! It all sounds your kids got all they needed from you as parents. We don’t have any guarantees for the developments and final outcome of our kids’ lives, though. We can just leave them in God’s hands, as they go their way and make their own decisions, and we continue to pray for them. God is good and faithful. Nothing you did was in vain.

  10. John J

    Does anyone remember the biggest spiritual joke of the last century; the beginning to the biggest revival ever (whatever that meant?); the biggest blasphemous movement since Calvinism? The feast of unbiblical manifestations? Some called it the “sex-with-clothes-on movement. Of course, it was…

    The Toronto Blessing. (Of which the charlatan Browne was a leader).

    Pay these people no attention; be the light of the world, and let darkness fall upon itself.

    • CW

      The very first time I ever heard Rodney Howard-Browne speak (on TV), I had a very serious sense in my spirit that something there was strange — in the Biblical definition of the word “strange”.

      A friend told me that she really liked his message, but I never did have a good impression of it. As the years have gone by, my initial impression has been confirmed.

  11. Jim

    Francis Chan is a heretic just like the rest of them. I really do not like the soft talk about how his teaching is “dangerous”, to use the word dangerous means to me that you need to watch the way before you or watch the teaching of Chan, his teaching is lethal, false and he must be marked and must be avoided. I agree with you all about this false revival conference, what a mess. If you are going to share the stage with them, then you are one of them.

  12. Linda

    Only a wolf will get angry if you criticize other wolves. Only a heretic will get mad if you criticize heretics. These run in packs and as the saying goes; “birds of a feather flock together.” A true Christian would be glad when darkness gets exposed, but not a wolf!

    • Linda

      Also, if you want to start on a Biblical platform when it comes to ‘sharing platforms,’ they need to begin at
      2 John 1; 10. We are not to even give them a greeting. I bet he did much more than that!

  13. DL

    Something happened to Francis Chan a number of years ago. That was the beginning of his downward fall. Looks like he’s reached the bottom though, or nearly so. Shame.

    On lighter note, the picture of the pilgrim, I thought he was holding one of those new foldable smart phones at first. You get so used to seeing pictures of people everyday holding that same pose, face down in their phone screen! Modern folks would do well to take up the walking stick too. Might save them from falling into a hole while strolling along.

    • Linda

      That is so true and so funny!
      If he was, the message would say;
      “Don’t look back, remember Lot’s wife!”

    • MB

      I think it started when he wrote “Crazy Love.” This also marked the beginning of the departure from truth for David Platt (who wrote a similar book in “Radical”). This, not to mention, they are both ardent Calvinists (or were). They subtly added to the gospel (as did the author/book “The Hole in Our Gospel”). Many move from adding works to the Gospel to adding “social justice” to the Gospel.

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