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  1. Dave Ellis

    I came across this book at roughly the same as “The Shack”. I used an orange highlighter for every statement that was contrary to scripture, and when i flicked through the back, all I saw was a wash of orange, it was that faar apart.

    If you do make a stand against this “stuff” you will get flack. I questioned my church’s use of the “Finger of God” DVD, allegedly making a case for signs and wonders, but was little more than a PR vehicle for Bethel church in Redding, California, and of course it’s leader Bill Johnson. I asked the leaders if they were aware of the roots of the Word Faith teachings of the DVD, and was charged with accusing our elders of leading the church into apostacy! I never made that accusation, even though that is precisely what they were doing. How close I was to being thrown out I don’t know, but God has made it clear that I am to stay.

    That leadership has now gone, and it’s replacement took the church into decline, fulfilling a prophecy brought to her.

  2. Joe

    I completely agree, MV.

    Moreover, in multiple passages of The Message, the false New Age doctrine of pantheism – the belief that God’s presence resides in all things – appears to have been written into the text. For example:

    “Everything you are and think and do is permeated with Oneness.” (The Message, rewrite of Ephesians 4:4-6)

    “Take back your Spirit and they [living creatures] die, revert to original mud;” (The Message, rewrite of Psalm 104:24-30)

    “[A] basic holiness permeates things and people.” (The Message, rewrite of Galatians 5:22-23)

    A belief in pantheism can dangerously lead individuals to try to connect with God without coming to Him through the cross. Warren Smith’s book, The Light That Was Dark, covers this.

  3. MV

    Garth:
    The Message:
    Our Father in heaven, Reveal who you are. Set the world right; Do what’s best— as above, so below.

    King James Version:
    Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

    I am not sure how or why, but even at a young age I knew that “as above, so below” is an occult mantra.
    Instant Red Alert to me. A search will confirm the occult origin and meaning of the term.

    “Holy be Your Name does not mean “reveal Who You are.” “Your Kingdom come” does not mean “set the world right.” The Father did not send Jesus to “set the world right,” nor to “do what’s best.”

    Deception is deep, dark, and destructive. The booklet, “D is for Deception” at this site is helpful to navigate the occult-ese in today’s churches.

    Blessings to you.

  4. Garth Page

    If you are going to DOWN ,The Message Bible Please please give Scriptual Contrasts KJV verses Message .How it has changed the meaning Examples Please.

    Garth

  5. Thanks for sharing! Sometime back, I exposed the homosexual compromising NIV in a Bible study, part of a Bible church. I was told I could not return to the Bible study because I do not accept all Bible versions. Also, that I needed to return to Bible teaching churches where leaders who love pornography had attacked me for not being pro porn. I was even sent porn. They are Calvinists. I was told I had to be one with them and be with them. This is the normal situation within the churches in our area.

  6. Dianne Neely

    Thank you Joe & Thank you LightHouse!!
    You have been a LightHouse for me since Jesus first saved me in 1999 and I discovered you.
    You’re a blessing!
    Thank you for publishing Joe’s letter.

  7. Liz Searcy

    Thank you so much for posting the Letter to the Editor. “Jesus Calling” is indeed a dangerous book and unsuspecting readers will think that Jesus really communicated these things to Sarah Young.
    God gave us HIS Word-the Bible, without error to lead and guide us.
    As for The Message-this is a false presentation of the real gospel. Years ago I watched Eugene Peterson, author of The Message, being interviewed on TV. Shockingly, he made a comment that he wrote The Message because his publisher asked him to.
    I have a background in publishing. My eyes were opened one day when I discovered that there is a concept in publishing which allows publishers to change the Word of God significantly in order to sell more Bibles. The KJV has a musicality built in it that other versions do not have. Adhere to the KJV-don’t be persuaded to own other versions that change God’s Word.
    Thanks for listening.
    Sincerely, Liz

  8. Vanessa Walters

    I’ve seen, Jesus Calling, read at United Methodist Women meetings. As a devotional reading. I’m not a Methodist, quit my membership several years ago. As for The Message Bible, I’ve owned and discarded a couple of editions. New Age gibberish woven into the Scriptures. A Word Faith church I had attended, often used this in their services. Ugh. No thanks.

  9. Wendy

    My baptist church loves the message and eugene Peterson ..Multiple copies of the shack on their shelves also …another church I used to go to a couple of years ago recommended Jesus calling and…sozo healing from Bethal church ….i can’t find a sound church …the last final one I tried was defending Kenneth Copeland and I felt under attack for asking who was the author of the bible study we were doing as not much of the bible as being mentioned….

  10. Joe

    Thanks for posting my letter.

    Church leaders must understand that the spirit behind the book Jesus Calling may well have an agenda of keeping unsaved people from salvation. In other words, it may aim to sideline people into its pink and fluffy ‘version of Christianity’ where themes of sin, judgment and Christ’s work on the cross are diminished – so that its readers fail to see their need to repent and make a genuine commitment to the Jesus of the Bible.

    As for The Message, the New Age language and themes are present in it yet don’t seem overt enough to compel most leaders to ban the book in church. Perhaps leaders don’t realise that the shrewd author of The Message may have outwitted them by knowing just how much New Age paraphernalia to insert without prompting a hard decision from them.

    A friend came to stay a while ago, and we were of about the same mindset. We’re not going to feel bad if we need to speak up about the use of these books in church!

    In our experience, churches aren’t bothered when such unwholesome books get used, leaders aren’t prepared to disclose the known problems with them, there’s no real concern over any potential fallout for the listeners, and anyone who complains about it is likely to get labelled, mischaracterized and gossiped about. The whole thing is completely unbiblical and churches certainly don’t have the moral high ground here. We won’t be rude but we’ll draw support and encouragement from the Bible when we talk to church leaders.

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