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  1. MM

    Matthew 15:8
    King James Version

    8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

    Know the testator, His Word is HIS testimony, not a mind altering mantra! Relationship with the savior is the key in order to worship HIM in spirit and truth.

  2. MM

    Using scriptures as a mantra… to put yourself into a trance is not “Biblical”. The Bible is a testimony and your relationship with the testator must be established for it to mean anything to you or to HIM. He decides what is in vain.

    Matthew 15:8 KJV This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

  3. Anne Smyth

    “Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    When I call answer me
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    Come and listen to me
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    When I call answer me
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    Come and listen to me
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    When I call answer me
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    Come and listen to me
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    When I call answer me
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    Oh, Lord hear my prayer
    Come and listen to me”
    If that isn’t ‘vain repetition’ I find it difficult to think what is meant by Matthew 6. We are told to meditate ON GOD’S WORD – and at Taize there is no preaching of the Word.

  4. james spence

    I have had little to do with Taize yet, but your comment that “The main focus on the Taizé worship is the chanted prayers, meditations, and songs, (but that) the Bible warns against such practices
    ‘[W]hen ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. (Matthew 6:7-8)’ ” is dreadful exegesis. You simply cannot isolate a single verse out of context and that would always fail you in my class.

    Praying to the Lord in repetition in the way of the Psalms can never be in vain. Taize chant is in the way of the Psalms. Similarly the six Pater Nosters and fifty Ave Maria’s are straight from the Bible, as is the Glory Be, and Amongst Anglicans, the Gloria Patri is used at the Daily Offices of Morning and Evening Prayer, to introduce and conclude the singing or recitation of psalms, and to conclude the canticles that lack their own concluding doxologies.

    Among Catholics the collect prayed at the beginning of each Mass ends “. . . through Jesus Christ, your Son, Our Lord, who lives and reigns with you in the unity of the Holy Spirit for ever and ever. Amen.”

    The Eucharistic prayer, which contains the high point of each Mass—the consecration of the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ—ends with the beautiful “Through him, with him, and in him, in the unity of the Holy Spirit, all glory and honor is yours, Almighty Father, forever and ever. Amen.”

    This prayer of glory has been added even to the Our Father, though Our Lord did not include it in his versions of the prayer. Catholics say this after the Our Father at Mass, but many non-Catholics add it every time they pray the Our Father: “For the kingdom, and the power, and the glory are yours, now and forever.” Ending a prayer with this kind of praise was common in Old Testament worship and is often used in the New Testament by St. Paul in his epistles, St. Peter in his letters, and St. John in the book of Revelation.

    And Jesus Himself prayed thus, “. . . and now glorify me, thou Father, along with thyself, with the glory ‘which I had along with thee before the world was’.” and we say ‘as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.’ see John 17:5

    So to say the style is un-biblical suggests the writer has little Christian knowledge, and a poor criticism. Taize is worship of the One true God in music.

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