{"id":4632,"date":"2010-06-23T20:24:27","date_gmt":"2010-06-24T00:24:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com\/blog\/?p=4632"},"modified":"2026-07-19T15:29:53","modified_gmt":"2026-07-19T22:29:53","slug":"letter-from-the-editor-is-mariners-church-ok-for-my-daughter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com\/blog\/letter-from-the-editor-is-mariners-church-ok-for-my-daughter\/","title":{"rendered":"Letter from the Editor: Is Mariner&#8217;s Church OK for My Daughter?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>To Lighthouse Trails:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Do you know anything about Kenton Beshore of Mariners Church\u00a0in Irvine, Ca. It is a mega-church that my daughter likes, but I don&#8217;t know too much\u00a0 about it.\u00a0 I could not find anything on it from the Lighthouse Trails\u00a0 site.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Our answer:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We are familiar with Mariner&#8217;s as it is the &#8220;mother&#8221; church of former Pastor Mike Erre&#8217;s church, Rockharbor. Lighthouse Trails <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com\/blog\/?p=814\">wrote about Mike Erre&#8217;s book <em>Death by Church<\/em><\/a>, a book that is a primer on emergent\/new spirituality\u00a0theology. On Mariner&#8217;s website, under Pastor&#8217;s Picks, Pastor Kenton Beshore lists a number of contemplative\/emerging books including <em>Death by Church<\/em>. Thus it is safe to say that Mariner&#8217;s lead pastor resonates with Erre&#8217;s theology. That said, please read our article on Death by Church. It is posted below. While it is long, it is vital in understanding the often subtle deception that lays wait for the unsuspecting.<\/p>\n<p>In the pages of <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20120806210445\/http:\/\/harvesthousepublishers.com\/books_nonfictionbook.cfm\/?productID=6924962\"><em><strong>Death by Church: Rescuing Jesus from His Followers, Recapturing God\u2019s Hope for His People<\/strong><\/em><\/a> (Harvest House, 2009), author Mike Erre (pastor of RockHarbor Church in Costa Mesa, California) acknowledges that Jesus is Lord. He also references a number of Scriptures and talks about several different Bible stories. But for the discerning Christian who knows his Bible, it doesn\u2019t take too long into Erre\u2019s book to realize something is amiss, and such a reader soon begins to have a sense that he is theologically being tossed to and fro between the pages of this book and soon feeling like he is in a battle zone for the truth. Sandwiched between the Scripture references and the mention of \u201cJesus\u201d is a theology that does not at all represent the Gospel.<\/p>\n<p><em>Death by Church<\/em> has a point to make\u2013that God is saving \u201call of creation\u201d (eg. p. 100) and that the \u201cchurch\u201d is not the substance of the kingdom of God (i.e., the whole of creation and all of humanity is). In fact, Erre says, the church is not the kingdom of God at all \u2013 it only points to the kingdom of God, which incorporates all of creation and, if the church does all the right things it can have the privilege of being part of that kingdom too. Erre seeks to prove his point but not just by turning to Scripture \u2013 he turns to prominent figures in the emerging\/emergent church (those such as Brian McLaren and Dan Kimball), the contemplative mystical prayer movement (those such as Dallas Willard and panentheist Richard Rohr-a favorite of Erre\u2019s), and New Age sympathizers (those such as Marcus Borg, who believes Jesus did not see himself as the Son of God (see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lighthousetrails.com\/home\/382-for-many-shall-come-in-my-name.html\"><em><strong>FMSN<\/strong><\/em><\/a>, p. 124), and Gregory Boyd, author of the not-yet published work, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gregboyd.org\/features\/the-cosmic-dance-project\"><em><strong>The Cosmic Dance<\/strong><\/em><\/a>). Couple Erre\u2019s frequent use of emerging\/contemplative\/New Age sympathizing authors with his kingdom-now theology wrapped in universalist\/panentheistic overtones, and <em>Death by Church <\/em>actually takes on a pseudo-name, <em>Death by Deception<\/em>. But let\u2019s take a closer look:<\/p>\n<p>Erre states in the beginning of the book that as Christians, \u201cWe have become famous for what we oppose, rather than who we are for\u201d (p. 22). Relying heavily on statistics and studies in this first section of the book, Erre wants the reader to know that for the most part over the \u201cmajority of the last 2000 years\u201d Christians have \u201cbeen the sponsor and center of most of Western culture and civilization\u201d(p. 20). But this has not been a good thing, according to Erre, who says that something has \u201cgone very wrong,\u201d particularly with \u201cAmerican culture,\u201d which has been guilty of simplifying \u201ccomplicated things.\u201d He gives an example: salvation. \u201cWe have reduced salvation into four steps that allow me entrance into heaven when I die. But in so doing, we have bypassed the gospel that Jesus preached\u2013the gospel of the kingdom of God. This gospel deals much more with the \u2018here and now\u2019 that the \u2018then\u2019 [&#8216;then&#8217; meaning when Jesus died on the Cross] and there\u2019 [there meaning heaven, our eternal home]\u201d (p. 26). And this is Erre\u2019s set up for the remainder of the book.<\/p>\n<p>The kingdom of God theology that Erre presents is broad\u2013in fact, very broad. That is why he turns to Brian McLaren, Alan Hirsch, and a number of other <em>broad-minded<\/em> thinkers to make his case. Erre is not merely quoting these figures in a benign manner\u2013he clearly resonates with them and admits many of them have been \u201chighly influential\u201d in his life.1 He fondly and favorably tells his readers what they think and what they believe. Quoting Alan Hirsch, Erre says that \u201cthe major threat to the viability of our faith is that of consumerism\u201d (p. 31). He eventually defines \u201cconsumerism\u201d as individualism, saying that there has been too much emphasis within Christianity on individual salvation and nothing on corporate salvation (ie., all of the world and creation being saved).<\/p>\n<p>As with most emerging authors, Erre exalts uncertainty and doubt (always searching, never finding). He states: \u201cJesus brings mystery, paradox, and tension\u2013rarely did someone get a straight answer out of Him\u201d (p. 36), which is not true about Jesus at all. To help build Erre\u2019s case, he turns a number of times to two Fuller Seminary professors, Eddie Gibbs and Ryan Bolger. Interestingly, in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lighthousetrails.com\/home\/400-faith-undone.html\"><em><strong>Faith Undone<\/strong><\/em><\/a>, Roger Oakland\u2019s expose of the emerging church, Oakland discusses Gibbs and Bolger. He states: \u201cThey found that emerging church leaders are not impressed with Christians who defend the faith by offering <em>definitive<\/em> answers to those who doubt the faith (p. 182).\u201d Doubt and uncertainty are vital to the emerging church thinking\u2013and to their mission\u2013and without this foundation, the emerging church cannot reach its goal of an all-inclusive kingdom (that Erre seeks to present in <em>Death by Church<\/em>). This resonates with Thomas Merton who told people of other religious traditions that we are already in unity, but we just don\u2019t realize it yet. (see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lighthousetrails.com\/home\/684-a-time-of-departing.html\"><em><strong>ATOD<\/strong><\/em><\/a>, p. 159). Again from <em>Faith Undone<\/em>, Oakland quotes Gibbs and Bolger:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Evangelism or mission for me is no longer persuading people to believe what I believe, no matter how edgy or creative I get. It is more about shared experiences and encounters. It is about walking the journey of life and faith together, each distinct to his or her own tradition and culture but with the possibility of encountering God and truth from one another.2<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Oakland shows how Gibbs and Bolger are presenting an \u201cinclusive gospel,\u201d certainly the overall message of Erre\u2019s book.<\/p>\n<p>Ironically, Gibbs and Bolger look to emerging church figure, Spencer Burke (of The Ooze), who, <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20110613065018\/http:\/\/www.zondervan.com:80\/Cultures\/en-US\/Authors\/Author.htm?QueryStringSite=Zondervan&amp;BioID=BurkeS\"><strong>according to Burke\u2019s publisher\u2019s website (Zondervan)<\/strong><\/a>, has had significant connections to Erre\u2019s RockHarbor Church.3 Roger Oakland reveals some disturbing things about Burke\u2019s spirituality that sound very inline with Erre\u2019s. Quoting Gibbs and Bolger again:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Burke\u2019s community is prepared to learn from faith traditions outside the Christian fold. There is a Buddhist family in their church. As a community, the church visited a Buddhist temple. They participated in a guided meditation with this family. Burke celebrates the many ways God is revealed. He recognizes that the Spirit has been with these people all along. The community celebrates other traditions. They reach out to other traditions, and see them as beloved children of God. With a focus on kingdom rather than on church, people find that their relationship with other faiths changes.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Back to <em>Death by Church<\/em>. Erre says that \u201cCentral to the kingdom is God\u2019s desire to renew, restore, and reconcile all things\u201d (p. 41). Calling this a \u201cdeep theology\u201d (p. 42), Erre says he would like to \u201clay a theological groundwork\u201d (p. 45). First, he explains that a gospel that focuses on \u201cgoing to heaven after you die, and praying the prayer of salvation\u201d is \u201conly a narrow slice of what the Scriptures teach about salvation\u201d (p. 46). Erre adds: \u201cHis great purpose is to restore His fallen creation and renew it beyond the original\u201d (p. 48). Numerous times throughout the book, he says that the \u201ccentral theme\u201d of the Bible is \u201cthe kingdom of God\u201d (p. 54). But as the discerning reader pours through the pages of <em>Death by Church<\/em>, a clear and disturbing picture of what Erre means by \u201ckingdom of God\u201d begins to take shape\u2013when Erre talks about the kingdom of God, he means that \u201cthe church\u201d is \u201cnot the kingdom.\u201d The kingdom is \u201csomething bigger.\u201d \u201cIf the kingdom is inclusive,\u201d Erre says, \u201cthe church should be also\u201d (p. 78).<\/p>\n<p>Erre sounds very much like New Age Episcopalian priest, Matthew Fox, who calls the \u201cdeep theology\u201d that Erre talks about a \u201cdeep ecumenism\u201d (\u201cdeep\u201d meaning all-inclusive). Fox expresses this clearly:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I foresee a renaissance, \u201ca rebirth based on a spiritual initiative\u201d \u2026 This new birth will <em>cut through all cultures and all religions <\/em>and indeed will draw forth the wisdom common to all vital mystical traditions in a global religious awakening I call \u201cdeep ecumenism.\u201d4<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>While Erre himself does not speak of the \u201cmystical traditions\u201d in <em>Death by Church<\/em>, many of those he incorporates into his book (Willard, McLaren, Rohr, Borg, Bell, Kimball, etc.) abundantly do in their own writings (see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com\"><strong>LTRP<\/strong><\/a> for documentation).<\/p>\n<p>Erre is not shy about sharing his <em>replacement theology <\/em>views. Speaking of a \u201ccoming restoration\u201d (p. 88) and a \u201cnew order,\u201d he says that the \u201cpeople of God\u201d are \u201cthe new and renewed Israel\u201d (p. 95). Reading through the book, one realizes that Erre sees no prophetic value or plan (for the future) in Israel.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cJesus \u2026 creates a new order\u2013a new community, a new Israel\u201d (p. 104).<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJesus of Nazareth reconstructs a true Israel by choosing 12 disciples (one for each of the 12 tribes of Israel)\u201d (p. 110).<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCentral to understanding this call of Jesus is the idea that it concerned itself less with the salvation of individual souls and more with the formation of a renewed Israel, a community of disciples that would collectively embody the kingdom\u201d (p. 111).<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe early Christians saw themselves as continuing Israel\u2019s story \u2026 as messianic Israel\u201d (p. 116).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Echoing his fellow emergent leaders, Erre minimizes \u201cthe question of what happens to me after I die\u201d and talks about a \u201ccosmic\u201d Jesus who \u201csends His \u201cnew community, the church\u201d into the world (p. 98). He states: \u201cThe New Testament \u2026 regularly insists that the major, central, framing question is that of God\u2019s purpose of rescue and re-creation for human beings and the whole world\u201d (p. 98). He calls it the \u201chere and now\u201d theology (p. 99). (\u201cOur worn-out theology of escaping from this world does not do justice to the here-and-now work\u201d (p. 99).<\/p>\n<p>Erre\u2019s theme, that all of creation is being restored and saved, is redundant through the book. On one page alone, he drives the point several times:<\/p>\n<p>1. \u201cGod wants to redeem the whole person and all of creation.\u201d<br \/>\n2. \u201cThe good news \u2026 is about the rule of God being applied to all of creation\u2013every part of human beings and the world.\u201d<br \/>\n3. \u201cOur traditional conceptions of salvation are blatantly more individualist, focusing on one\u2019s individual reconciliation with God through a personal relationship with Jesus \u2026 It is more concerned with getting souls to heaven than with bringing heaven to earth. [This resonates with Marcus Borg, who calls this old paradigm Christianity.] This <em>narrow<\/em> gospel focuses only on the salvation of the human soul, but the gospel of the kingdom s includes salvation of human beings within the context of the larger story of God restoring all of creation.<br \/>\n4. \u201c[T]he consummation of the kingdom includes an entirely new creation.<br \/>\n5. This new and cosmic salvation is spoken of as the renewal, restoration, or reconciliation of all things.\u201d<br \/>\n6. (p. 125): \u201cOne of the ways that the kingdom is larger than the church is that the focus on the kingdom is the redemption of all creation. The message of the kingdom of God is cosmic in its proportions \u2026 it [the kingdom] is ultimately aimed at redeeming and restoring all that God has made\u201d (more on pp. 128-129; 210-211; 217).<\/p>\n<p>Please understand that the view Erre is expressing in these statements is classic universalism (which negates the Gospel message of Jesus Christ because faith in Christ is not a requirement for salvation, and regardless of one\u2019s acceptance or rejection of the Gospel, he or she is saved. This would mean, as Neale Donald Walsch teaches, that even Hitler would be saved).5<\/p>\n<p>It is important to note here that when Erre talks about God restoring and renewing all things, he is not talking about the new heaven and the earth that will take place after the events that are foretold in the Book of Revelation. He is espousing a view about a renewal and restoration that will occur <em>prior<\/em> to these events (this is called kingdom-now theology).<\/p>\n<p>Erre says that this newly defined \u201cKingdom citizenship\u201d incorporates those of other kingdoms as well, not just our own kingdom of God, which helps us to see \u201cour place in the cosmic [meaning universal] story\u201d (p. 112). This new \u201cKingdom\u201d \u201chas decreed that independence has no place in His kingdom. Instead collective interdependence is demanded,\u201d Erre states. One term that Erre uses frequently is a term that resembles New Age leader Barbara Marx Hubbard who also speaks of a \u201cnew humanity.\u201d When Marx Hubbard uses this term, she means man has been enlightened to understand his own divinity and now realizes all of humanity is being saved, along with all of creation. The stipulation for this \u201cnew humanity\u201d is not whether someone has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ through being born-again and regeneration through Christ\u2013no, it is about a new humanity that has joined together and understands her cosmic divinity (see <em><strong>Reinventing Jesus Christ<\/strong><\/em>).<\/p>\n<p>Erre\u2019s kingdom-now theology is expressed throughout the book. For instance on page 132, he states that the gospel is \u201csomething bigger\u201d than the \u201cstory of Jesus\u2019 dying for the private sins of individuals\u2026. it is the story of God\u2019s kingdom being launched, on earth as in heaven, generating a new state of affairs. Atonement, redemption, and salvation are what happen <em>on the way<\/em>.\u201d This is typical emerging spirituality that does not see atonement, redemption, and salvation as a moment in history when Jesus Christ died on the Cross but rather an ongoing process that is continually growing, expanding, changing (see our <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com\/blog\/?p=461\"><strong>review of <em>An Emergent Manifesto of Hope<\/em><\/strong><\/a>). Erre states that \u201cthe end of the age does not result in the destruction of the earth but rather in its renewal.\u201d He says: \u201c[R]ather that waiting for the last days, we have been living in them since the coming of Jesus. Rather than waiting for the end to come, we are already living in the end times that will be consummated when Jesus returns\u201d (p. 198). And, \u201c[T]he end of the age does not result in the destruction of the earth but rather in its renewal\u201d(p. 212).<\/p>\n<p>Erre believes that the church \u201cneither initiates nor sustains [God&#8217;s] work\u201d on the earth but must seek out where the work of God is already taking place and participate in that work. He says when we take on this view, we can then understand that the \u201cwhole of creation is now included in the scope of redemption.\u201d \u201cThe church is not the primary location of God in the world; the world is,\u201d he says (p. 133).<\/p>\n<p><em>Death by Church<\/em> lays out a perfect example of what Lighthouse Trails calls \u201cthe new missiology.\u201d In essence, Erre tells believers that \u201cwe don\u2019t take Christ to a region or people group, but we instead show up and pay attention to the work that Jesus is already doing. We have to move away from the current mind-set about church, ministry, and mission.\u201d (p. 136). In other words, we don\u2019t have to tell people about Jesus because Jesus is already there among them (before they hear the Gospel and believe; i.e, they can keep their same religion and still be connected to God). This is what William Young, author of the #1 best-seller <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com\/blog\/?cat=66\"><em><strong>The Shack<\/strong><\/em><\/a>, echoes when <em>The Shack\u2019s <\/em>\u201cJesus\u201d says he has no desire to make anyone Christian. Erre states: \u201cWe don\u2019t do God\u2019s work in the world; we simply participate in God\u2019s work in the world that is already underway. \u2026 He\u2019s always at work everywhere\u201d (p. 162).<\/p>\n<p>As if the kingdom-now theology, replacement theology, universalistic message, and new missiology were not enough, Erre presents to the reader a case for panentheism (God in all things). Given the fact that he includes Richard Rohr in his list of those he resonates with, this is no surprise. Rohr is the founder of <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20130204224338\/http:\/\/www.cacradicalgrace.org:80\/aboutus\/aboutus_index.html\"><strong>the Center for Action and Contemplation<\/strong><\/a>. His spirituality would be in the same camp as someone like Matthew Fox (author of <em>The Coming of the Cosmic Christ<\/em>) who believes in pantheism (God is all) and panentheism (God in all). Rohr wrote the foreword to a 2007 book called <em>How Big is Your God?<\/em> by Jesuit priest (from India) Paul Coutinho. In Coutinho\u2019s book, he describes an interspiritual community where people of all religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, and Christianity) worship the same God.<\/p>\n<p>In <em>Death by Church<\/em>, in Erre\u2019s presentation of panentheism, Erre quotes Madeleine L\u2019Engle: \u201cThere is nothing so secular that it cannot be sacred, and that is one of the deepest messages of the Incarnation\u201d (p. 159). What she is saying here is that God (the sacred) can be found in everything (the secular). In that line of thinking, Erre himself says that his new kingdom \u201cdismantles the sacred\/secular distinction\u201d and \u201call things are given over to God\u2013including those things <em>formerly<\/em> thought to be secular or unspiritual\u201d He adds: \u201cConfessional worship \u2026 seeks to see everything as having been made to reflect the glory of God. \u2026 we reawaken to the possibilities of redemption in all areas of life\u201d (pp. 158). This is the same theology as Sue Monk Kidd (see <em>ATOD<\/em>, p. 134). This concept reflects classic panentheism\u2013God is in all things. Keep in mind, that there is a continuity of the theme that God is in everything with many of the figures that Erre turns to in his book. Richard Rohr, Marcus Borg, Brian McLaren, and John Dominic Crossan are four who hold to this view and are referenced in <em>Death by Church<\/em>. Borg is one of the leading champions of panentheisism of mainline Christianity, as is Brian McLaren through the emerging church. Rob Bell, who resonates with Marcus Borg, is also referenced in <em>Death by Church<\/em>. We want to reiterate here, Erre is not just referencing these figures\u2013he has absorbed their theology!<\/p>\n<p>In an emergent church setting, Erre\u2019s book would fit in well. But unfortunately, he is scheduled to speak at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa on May 29th at the <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20090529004552\/http:\/\/www.movement2009.com:80\/schedule.php\"><strong>Movement 2009<\/strong><\/a> event as the featured speaker. From all that Calvary Chapel has stood for and represented over the last three plus decades, Erre\u2019s spirituality does not line up with Calvary Chapel. Even if Erre doesn\u2019t talk about these topics at the Movement 2009, to welcome him at a Calvary Chapel church (the mother church of Calvary Chapel, no less) is sending out a message far and wide that emerging spirituality is now acceptable and legitimate. Yet, Calvary Chapel founder Pastor Chuck Smith has made several <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com\/CCSpecialReport.htm\"><strong>strong statements<\/strong><\/a> over the past few years denouncing the spirituality of the emerging church. We hope and pray that he and other Calvary Chapel pastors will realize that many believers, from many different denominational backgrounds are watching and waiting and hoping that Calvary Chapel will stand firm in the faith and reject firmly, once and for all, these unbiblical teachings \u2026 no matter the cost. No Bible-believing church should give a platform to those who espouse these views. Having Mike Erre speak at Calvary Chapel would be tantamount to having Marcus Borg or Richard Rohr speaking there.<\/p>\n<p>We close with this. It\u2019s vital to understand that spiritual deception can sound very Christian. That is how deception works. Ray Yungen has given a solemn warning to this effect when he comments on occultist Alice Bailey\u2019s prediction of what her movement (the New Age) would do and how it would accomplish \u201cworld illumination\u201d:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In light of the many who will be coming in Christ\u2019s name, I believe the Alice Bailey prophecies can provide further insight into what the apostle Paul called in II Thessalonians the falling away. Bailey eagerly foretold of what she termed \u201cthe regeneration of the churches.\u201d Her rationale for this was obvious:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Christian church in its many branches can serve as a St. John the Baptist, as a voice crying in the wilderness, and as a nucleus through which world illumination may be accomplished.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In other words, instead of opposing Christianity, the occult would capture and blend itself with Christianity and then use it as its primary vehicle for spreading and instilling New Age consciousness! The various churches would still have their outer trappings of Christianity and still use much of the same lingo. If asked certain questions about traditional Christian doctrine, the same answers would be given. But it would all be on the outside; on the inside a contemplative [emerging] spirituality would be drawing in those open to it.6<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Notes:<\/strong><br \/>\n1. From Disclaimer in <em>Death by Church <\/em>at beginning of book.<br \/>\n2. Eddie Gibbs and Ryan K. Bolger, <em>Emerging Churches: Creating Christian Community in Postmodern Cultures <\/em>(Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Academic of Baker Publishing Group, 2005), p. 132. (This book cites Brian McLaren on back cover).<br \/>\n3. One source told us that Burke may no longer be on staff at RockHarbor.<br \/>\n4. Roger Oakland in <em>Faith Undone<\/em> (chapter 2), quoting Matthew Fox, <em>The Coming of the Cosmic Christ<\/em>, 1988, p. 5.<br \/>\n5. See <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com\/blog\/?p=1322\"><strong>\u201cEnlightened Race\u201d by Caryl Matrisiciana<\/strong><\/a> from <em>Out of India<\/em>.<br \/>\n6. 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